medicare, social security, food stamps au these programs. but when you cut money out of a food stamp program, you're taking food right off the table. i stopped in the grocery store and bought $36 worth of groceries the other day just to see what it's like. you know, it was five yogurts and five cans of soup and a box oftrist cuts and a few things. you say to yourself, if that's what you're taking away from a family of four, some days there's simply not going to be anything on the table for those people. so it isn't a question of whether whether they're living high on the hog. it is really a question of whether you're giving them enough energy to go to school and do well in school, work or to go look for a job or anything else. if you want people to work, you've got to have them fed. >> yeah. how do you see both sides of the aisle trying to negotiate on a farm bill considering such a huge $35 billion gap between how much the house and senate want to cut from the food stamp program? >> one of the questions that has to be answered here in the b